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		<title>By: stu</title>
		<link>http://www.htnz.co.nz/articles/housetrucking-essentials/you-and-your-flue/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 10:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, my luck the wretched thing will probably catch fire, and as Murphys law states, I&#039;ll be the one in the doo doo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, my luck the wretched thing will probably catch fire, and as Murphys law states, I&#8217;ll be the one in the doo doo.</p>
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		<title>By: Handy_handle</title>
		<link>http://www.htnz.co.nz/articles/housetrucking-essentials/you-and-your-flue/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Handy_handle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 01:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get some of that &quot;space filler&#039; in a can and sneak over one night and fill the gap.. might stop the smoke from coming out. Then they also might understand what they are doing to you..LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get some of that &#8220;space filler&#8217; in a can and sneak over one night and fill the gap.. might stop the smoke from coming out. Then they also might understand what they are doing to you..LOL</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
		<link>http://www.htnz.co.nz/articles/housetrucking-essentials/you-and-your-flue/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 10:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Added a picture of my neighbours chimbley as an example about how not to look after your pride and joy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Added a picture of my neighbours chimbley as an example about how not to look after your pride and joy</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
		<link>http://www.htnz.co.nz/articles/housetrucking-essentials/you-and-your-flue/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 09:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These restrictions on solid fuel burners &quot;doon Sooth&quot; are for the environmental good, or so we are led to believe, right? I don&#039;t seem to recall the smog the few times I have been down there, but I hear it can get quite bad. And it is all the fireplaces&#039; fault, isn&#039;t it? Not the thousands upon thousands of cars idling away every day, chucking out all that combustion engine by-product into a thin, cold atmosphere. So, how come there are no laws about what brand of exhaust system can be used on a car, or who can supply it? Isn&#039;t it the same thing...? Bet you two bob there are kick-backs involved for someone.

I recall a program on the telly about this guy in Chch a week or so ago, burning treated pellet wood on an open fireplace. I think it was Campbell Live. An open fireplace is a complete waste of time if you ask me, but he is still allowed to use it because it was a pre-existing fireplace, and the landlord refuses to replace it. So this guy belches chemically treated wood by-product into the neighbourhood because he can. 

So, as far as I am aware, any fines a council issues at this stage would only relate to new installations not meeting the emmissions laws (unless you are creating a nuisance with yout fire of course). 

Coincidentally, today I did the kiwi thing and whinged to the council about a neighbour upwind and downhill of us who burns their fire 365 days a year. Unfortunately, they don&#039;t just use it to burn wood, they burn their rubbish on it as well. This article actually relates quite well to them because judging by the state of their chimbley, it hasn&#039;t been cleaned for some time (I&#039;ll post a pic). We can&#039;t even open our north facing windows or hang washing out on a fine day. We don&#039;t get a break at all because they are a retired couple and don&#039;t go anywhere. Just stay home and burn stuff. After 5 or so visits over the years to complain to them about the smell and smoke, and the affect on the children in the house between us, I finally went to the council. Not that that will amount to squat of course. Councils are just tiny governments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These restrictions on solid fuel burners &#8220;doon Sooth&#8221; are for the environmental good, or so we are led to believe, right? I don&#8217;t seem to recall the smog the few times I have been down there, but I hear it can get quite bad. And it is all the fireplaces&#8217; fault, isn&#8217;t it? Not the thousands upon thousands of cars idling away every day, chucking out all that combustion engine by-product into a thin, cold atmosphere. So, how come there are no laws about what brand of exhaust system can be used on a car, or who can supply it? Isn&#8217;t it the same thing&#8230;? Bet you two bob there are kick-backs involved for someone.</p>
<p>I recall a program on the telly about this guy in Chch a week or so ago, burning treated pellet wood on an open fireplace. I think it was Campbell Live. An open fireplace is a complete waste of time if you ask me, but he is still allowed to use it because it was a pre-existing fireplace, and the landlord refuses to replace it. So this guy belches chemically treated wood by-product into the neighbourhood because he can. </p>
<p>So, as far as I am aware, any fines a council issues at this stage would only relate to new installations not meeting the emmissions laws (unless you are creating a nuisance with yout fire of course). </p>
<p>Coincidentally, today I did the kiwi thing and whinged to the council about a neighbour upwind and downhill of us who burns their fire 365 days a year. Unfortunately, they don&#8217;t just use it to burn wood, they burn their rubbish on it as well. This article actually relates quite well to them because judging by the state of their chimbley, it hasn&#8217;t been cleaned for some time (I&#8217;ll post a pic). We can&#8217;t even open our north facing windows or hang washing out on a fine day. We don&#8217;t get a break at all because they are a retired couple and don&#8217;t go anywhere. Just stay home and burn stuff. After 5 or so visits over the years to complain to them about the smell and smoke, and the affect on the children in the house between us, I finally went to the council. Not that that will amount to squat of course. Councils are just tiny governments.</p>
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		<title>By: astar</title>
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		<dc:creator>astar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 05:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A hundred years ago there weren&#039;t half a million people living between the plains and the sea wanting to burn wood and coal ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A hundred years ago there weren&#8217;t half a million people living between the plains and the sea wanting to burn wood and coal <img src='http://www.htnz.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Handy_handle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handy_handle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 21:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great reason for owning a house on land. I guess nest the Govt will be telling us that our lawns are not permitted to grow more then 4 inches or we be fine for &quot;failing to be considerate of our neighbourhood&quot; or something silly like that. But I guess that some people who have just left University have to justify their qualifications by making these silly rules that oppose what has been working for many hundreds of years. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great reason for owning a house on land. I guess nest the Govt will be telling us that our lawns are not permitted to grow more then 4 inches or we be fine for &#8220;failing to be considerate of our neighbourhood&#8221; or something silly like that. But I guess that some people who have just left University have to justify their qualifications by making these silly rules that oppose what has been working for many hundreds of years. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 12:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, very true, I am from christchurch. my mother purchased a new house (on land) lol and she was sent a warning that if she used her fireplace she would be given a substantial fine, she had to replace her fireplace and flue with one that was specified by the government. It&#039;s a shame really, i feel sorry for people that cant afford to heat their homes with heaters and cannot afford to replace their fireplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, very true, I am from christchurch. my mother purchased a new house (on land) lol and she was sent a warning that if she used her fireplace she would be given a substantial fine, she had to replace her fireplace and flue with one that was specified by the government. It&#8217;s a shame really, i feel sorry for people that cant afford to heat their homes with heaters and cannot afford to replace their fireplace.</p>
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		<title>By: stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 09:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of resources available to find out what&#039;s what, but I reckon only Canterbury (South Island) at this stage would jump up and down if you used your woodburner down on the plains. The councils down that way will always defer to Environment Canterbury, www.ecan.govt.nz. Here&#039;s the gist on their &quot;approved&quot; range of burners: http://ecan.govt.nz/services/online-services/pages/authorised-solid-fuel-burners.aspx

Then of course, you head north to the likes of the big smoke (pardon the pun). The councils up that way don&#039;t have any problems with you using woodburners. I would suggest you contact the councils in any areas you plan on staying and check with them just to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of resources available to find out what&#8217;s what, but I reckon only Canterbury (South Island) at this stage would jump up and down if you used your woodburner down on the plains. The councils down that way will always defer to Environment Canterbury, <a href="http://www.ecan.govt.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecan.govt.nz</a>. Here&#8217;s the gist on their &#8220;approved&#8221; range of burners: <a href="http://ecan.govt.nz/services/online-services/pages/authorised-solid-fuel-burners.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://ecan.govt.nz/services/online-services/pages/authorised-solid-fuel-burners.aspx</a></p>
<p>Then of course, you head north to the likes of the big smoke (pardon the pun). The councils up that way don&#8217;t have any problems with you using woodburners. I would suggest you contact the councils in any areas you plan on staying and check with them just to be sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Handy_handle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handy_handle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 08:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ban was for new or replacement installs. I would be interested to see how they can force people to replace a &quot;pre-existing&quot;, unless they want to pay the cost. Of course that is the thing with Govt dept changing the laws..the people have to pay for the change or they will get fined. How democratic is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ban was for new or replacement installs. I would be interested to see how they can force people to replace a &#8220;pre-existing&#8221;, unless they want to pay the cost. Of course that is the thing with Govt dept changing the laws..the people have to pay for the change or they will get fined. How democratic is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 13:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, with the new law/ban on some fireplacesin the home, is it still possible to have a potbelly in a housetruck without getting a fine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, with the new law/ban on some fireplacesin the home, is it still possible to have a potbelly in a housetruck without getting a fine?</p>
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